You Season 4 Episode 8 You Season 4 Part 2 Review: Let's Talk About That Big Twist

You Season 4’s Big Twist Isn’t as Interesting as it Wants to Be

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Warning: This review contains major spoilers for You Season 4 Part 2.

It’s one thing to deliver a shocking twist. It’s another to trick your audience. That’s what happens with You Season 4 Part 2, and while it still makes for interesting television, the series fails to make it work as well as it should.

Part of the problem, I think, also lies in the way You Season 4 was released by Netflix. Unlike other seasons, You Season 4 was split into two parts — not because the story warranted it, but simply because that’s how Netflix wanted it done

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You. Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in episode 406 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

Watching it that way, the first half feels like incredible character development for Joe Goldberg. He’s trying to do better, to prove he’s not a murderer, and he’s suddenly the one being stalked.

In Part 2, we learn that Joe has actually started to lose his mind and that he was Rhys — and the “Eat the Rich Killer” all along. 

That doesn’t necessarily negate the character development we see in Part 1, considering that Joe is legitimately unaware that he hasn’t been speaking to Rhys all this time. It does, thankfully, make a lot of the most intriguing parts of Part 1 feel superficial. 

The Fight Club-style twist also feels like a bit of a reach at times. Consider the scene where Joe and Roald are locked up by Rhys, for example.

You Season 4 Episode 8 Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg, Ed Speleers as Rhys
You. (L to R) Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg, Ed Speleers as Rhys in episode 408 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

The series doesn’t take the time it should when it comes to revealing the moments where Joe thought he was talking to Rhys, and some of the most interesting stuff in that regard is glossed over.

However, the twist does allow for some incredible scenes between Joe and “Rhys” as his alter-ego.

Joe spirals as he realizes what’s been happening to him. Penn Badgley does some of his best work in these final episodes — there are so many layers of emotion, desperation, and evil that come out of him at once. It’s impeccable acting, which at this point is no surprise.

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You. (L to R) Ed Speleers as Rhys, Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in episode 408 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

Ed Speleers also has a chance to shine, playing a different version of himself as Joe’s other personality, and the interactions between the two actors are brilliant. 

It does make sense that Joe would have been the “Eat the Rich Killer” all along. Actually, it makes more sense for him than what we were initially led to believe. And it makes sense that no, he didn’t just let Marienne go.

She’s been locked up in a cage all along. 

It’s heartbreaking seeing her there, and poor Nadia is the one who finds her. She’s desperate to help, but Marienne knows it’s best if she doesn’t call the cops. That puts Nadia in a position of trying to help Marienne kill Joe.

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You. Amy-Leigh Hickman as Nadia Farran in episode 407 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

Marienne is obviously willing to do that, but their plan isn’t exactly easy to pull off. Her situation is also worsened by the fact that Joe hasn’t even been fully aware that he’d been holding Marienne captive. Because he does love her, in the way that Joe loves, anyway.

Now that he’s fully snapped, though, he doesn’t have the control over the situation that he usually does. 

Both Love and Beck also return to haunt Joe, which is a fun surprise and a chance to bring things full circle a bit. Plus, it’s nice for the audience to see Victoria Pedretti and Elizabeth Lail on screen again.

If we’re still to root for Joe for any reason, this look inside his mind makes quite a difference. 

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You. Victoria Pedretti as Love Quinn in episode 409 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

He does also seem to feel genuine remorse at being responsible for Marienne losing his daughter. And then to see that she’s taken her own life.

Except that none of that is actually true. It’s yet another trick on the audience, but more importantly, it’s a bit of Victory of Joe Goldberg. Seeing Marienne come out of this on top is extraordinarily satisfying — and with the help of Nadia too.

It’s too bad Nadia doesn’t wind up with a happy ending. What he does to her somehow feels more evil than anything else this season. 

Which brings me to Joe’s relationship with Kate. Kate has her own baggage, including a strained relationship with a controlling father.

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You. (L-R) Charlotte Ritchie as Kate, Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in episode 409 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

She’s really a fascinating character, though she doesn’t quite get the development she deserves over the course of the season. I’d argue less time could have been spent on the rich group of friends an more time spent on her and the relationship she develops with Joe / Jonathan. 

While she doesn’t fully understand what she’s getting herself into with Joe, I have a feeling Kate can hold her own. For now, they have the perfect setup.

She’s used her resources to help Joe change his entire narrative, and they’re building an empire. It’s sickening and yet satisfying to see Joe come out of this on top. 

Of course, he also has no idea that Marienne is alive. His time has got to come sooner or later. 

Other thoughts:

  • Phoebe’s stalker storyline is definitely a surprise. It had become clear the photographer was up to something, but that isn’t what I would have expected. 
  • Speaking of Phoebe, there is something really pure about how her story ends. Of all of the people in that group of friends, she’s the one who deserved a happy ending — especially since it involved a real change in values for her.
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Ashley Bissette Sumerel is a television and film critic living in Wilmington, North Carolina. She is editor-in-chief of Tell-Tale TV as well as Eulalie Magazine. Ashley has also written for outlets such as Rolling Stone, Paste Magazine, and Insider. Ashley has been a member of the Critics Choice Association since 2017 and is a Rotten Tomatoes-approved critic. In addition to her work as an editor and critic, Ashley teaches Entertainment Journalism, Composition, and Literature at the University of North Carolina Wilmington.